The clichés defects at the 15 Centesimi (Plate 1 and 2)

[lucasa]

bernhard your analysis is correct .
the stamp on the right is A120 so since the other stamp has WZ , the couple is from the first plate. ( so called 1A)

we need Massimiliano to discover in with position is the stamp with WZ


Luca

[fildoc]

quasi con assoluta certezza posizione 56 nella tavola iniziale
ovvero estremamente probabile
aspetto di trovare una coppia vericale filigranata

[Berni17]

Thank you Luca and Massimiliano for your contributions. Another mystery has been solved.

Best regards

[seemba]

Good morning everyone!
Found this one, should be a n°3 or a n°3e.

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I've looked up the tables of Stritzl for this defect but I don't find it. The central part could be similar to A311 but it's a little bit lower and there aren't the other characteristics of that cliché.
Is it occasional or we can find the plate position?

Thanks in advance,
Alberto

[fildoc]

56 certo
l'altro è in posiz 48
guarda BALKEN

[Berni17]

Have now overlapped the two stamps with the spacer.

A Cliche -overlay.png

Best regards
Bernhard

[Berni17]

Hello Alberto!

There is a strip of three from the Demuth Collection where the middle stamp is very similar to the one shown.

A 101 (3er-Streifen).jpg

Best regards
Bernhard

[seemba]

Hi Bernhard, nice to meet you and thanks for your answer!
In your line we can see that also the leftmost part of the border is broken so I'd suppose this is not the same cliché.
Or maybe it's just a "before" phase of that one?

Thanks!

[seemba]

Also, if this can help, I've got this stamp marked "78" on the back.
Let's hope it gives more informations to your studies (and mine also, but I'm way more newbie than you)!

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[seemba]

Today is study day so here it comes another discovery I just made.

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With the rare cancel of Montebello (P11) and the rare colour "rosarot"!
I don't find this on the plates of Strizl tho..
Can you help me please?

Thanks,
Alberto

[lucasa]

A159. questo cliche nei suoi vari spostamenti è stato anche filigranato

Luca

[Berni17]

I suspect it's more of an A83. Here's an example (Plate 2).

A 83 Platte 2.png

Best regards
Bernhard

[fildoc]

A159 with watermark

[fildoc]

A83 in the stripe certain

[fildoc]

I vote for A83

[seemba]

Yes, I agree with A83, thanks!
Also because I have A159 too and it's pretty different.

Thanks a lot guys!

[lucasa]

[Morgan68]

Buonasera a tutti

Volevo un vostro aiuto per capire se si tratti di difetto occasionale o meno.
Ho scorso questo post ma non mi pare di aver trovato FB simili.

Lettera da Vicenza a Venezia

Grazie molte

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[Berni17]

Hello Enrico!

It's an A72. At first I thought it was an A70 but then I realized it is the A72.

A 72.jpg

A 70 (Belegstück).jpg

Best regards
Bernhard

[Morgan68]

Hi Bernhard,

thank you very much. Very kind of you.
I never got the chance to collect all Stritzl docs together.

Yes it is exactly that one .

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