Argentina 1935-51 Definitives

[rubiera]

This is the second and last batch of these stamps up for study.

I find the 1940 printing is on the 1E4 stamp (small horizontal RA)





In 1941 the second clay paper is used, with a more yellowish tone, on CL1B paper, thinner than the CL1A used in 1938



In 1945 the CL1B is reissued on darker colors.





The printings, as I find them, are:

1. 1937, light color, 1E1
2. 1938, dark color, 1E1
3. 1939, dark color, clay, CL1A
4. 1940, dark color, 1E4
5. 1941, light color, CL1B
6. 1945, dark/semi-dark color, CL1B

tony

[rubiera]

These two blocks are over the paper I refer to as 2D, with the straight rays diffuse watermark.

The first block is a 12c Red





The second bock is a Large Format 20c Bull (20cLC)







tony

[rubiera]

I have noticed two interesting varieties in in the background color. In the large block I have previously shown, I find one stamp with the background more displaced than the stamp left of it.



In one of the 1E3 specimens, I find a curious background printing flaw on the outside edge.





Have you seen these varieties or similar ones in your collections?

tony

[rubiera]

This stamp is much more complicated than I imagined. Now that I have looked at a reasonable number of these, I find the following printings:

Medium color, first watermark, 1E3, flat paper, from 1942, vertical watermark in both directions





Medium color, second watermark diffuse, 2D, white flat paper, from 1943?, horizontal watermark





Another one on thicker paper, poorly perfed





Vivid colors, second watermark-straigh rays, 2C, white rough paper, 1949, horizontal





Vivid colors, second watermark-straigh rays, 2C, white rough paper, 1949, vertical





Dark colors, first watermark on the first late paper, 1L1, from 1951, vertical in both directions





Dark colors, first watermark on the first late paper, 1L1, from 1951, vertical in both directions, worn printing





Light colors, looks like straight rays, but is first watermark on the first late paper, 1L1, from 1951, vertical in both directions





Here are links to additional specimens-I doubt I got all the varieties.

http://somestamps.com/domain-argentina/ ... -037-1.htm

http://somestamps.com/domain-argentina/ ... -037-2.htm

http://somestamps.com/domain-argentina/ ... -037-3.htm

http://somestamps.com/domain-argentina/ ... -037-4.htm

http://somestamps.com/domain-argentina/ ... -037-5.htm

tony

[rubiera]

Here is a small selection from the 1930s and 1940s.









tony

[rubiera]

I would like to know why this postal entire has edge perforations.



tony

[rubiera]

Does anyone know what this printed tape mean?













tony

[rubiera]

I have placed these stamps in group 5, and find some overprints on any or both of 1E1 and 1E2.



Here are all the images:

http://somestamps.com/domain-argentina/ ... ro-041.htm

Those overprinted along the top are all 1E1 in my limited sample, and this may be an indication that these were overprinted first.



I also find a specimen with a field of ink dots, similar to one I have shown before.



tony

[rubiera]

I have grouped the 1c/5c typographed and the 5c departmentals in group 6.

The "servicio oficial" for 5c/10c typogaphed and the 15c Small Format Cattle dark blue I place in group 7.



The 1E2 issues are in group 8, and these saw use mostly during 1937. I do not find any ovepinted "servicio oficial" and I may be missing a few of the regular issues.



tony

[rubiera]

Here are several images of this receipt.



The instructions on the back:



The stamp for 12 pesos fee:



The 1 peso stamp seems to have a minor plate variety.





And the same seems to be the case for the 5 pesos stamp.





tony

[rubiera]

9. The 1939/41 clay paper issues for the 5c and 10c Brown. Is there a 1c for this one?
10. The 'Servicio Oficial' issues for group 9.
11. The 1939 color changes for the "cents" issues and all small format on the 1E3 paper. The 25c to 20 pesos issues on the 1E3 paper.
12. The 'Servicio Oficial' issues for group 11.
13. The 1940/41 issues on the 1E4 paper from 1/2c to 20 pesos.
14. The 'Servicio Oficial' issues for group 13.
15. The 15c Martin Guemes and the 20c Large Format cattle on all papers, including the 15cMG 'Servicio Oficial.'
16. The 1943 clay paper issues 1c/5c/10c and large format stamps.
17. The 'Servicio Oficial' issues for group 16.
18. The 1943 issue of the 3c Moreno on all papers.
19. The 'Servicio Oficial' issues for group 18.
20. The issues on diffuse second watermark paper (2D). I think these are only 'cents' issues (I know only of the 1/2c).

[rubiera]

These entires I am told were used officially.



tony

[rubiera]

two proofs?Here is how I clasify all errors and stamps that were not regularly issued:

1. Overprinted specimen, "muestra"
2. Printing proofs. I still have doubts in case some proofs may have been printed on regularly issued papers and colors. The following example is printed on unwatermarked india paper, commonly used for US proofs in the 19th century.



3. Not perfed
4. Poorly perfed
5. Printed on the gum side
6. Double impresions
7. "printer's waste" and the example below seems to be, but I am not sure. It is printed on both sides on india unwatermarked paper.





tony

[rubiera]

Does anyone know the meaning of the 3-I-3 format for this postmark?





tony

[rubiera]

These cancels were used in 1935/36. This format was mostly replaced during 1937, even though a small number of small towns kept the format well into the 1940s.



I have seen these for I-1 to I-5. I wonder if there's a 6, 7,...





Anyone have more of these to share?

tony

[Lucky Boldrini]

Hi Tony,

I don't collect Argentina stamps, anyway I would like to express my sincere congratulations for your great work!



Enjoy your time here on F&F!



Luca

[Plinio Richelmi]

Gli amici argentini sono dei grandi

Per chi volesse imparare propongo il loro Forum che talvolta frequento

http://www.filateliaargentina.com.ar/index.eng.htm

Plinio

[rubiera]

Thanks, Luca, for the encouraging words!

tony

[rubiera]

Estimado Plinio:

Tambien participo en el foro que menciona, y modero la seccion dedicada a esta serie:

http://www.filateliaargentina.com.ar/fo ... m.php?f=43

En este subforo encontrara temas adicionales a los que menciono aqui.

saludos

tony

[rubiera]

I have spent some time grouping this value, that may well be the most difficult-to-type value of this series. Here I show the first clay paper issue on reddish brown, the CL1A, from 1939; and the second clay paper on dark/blackish brown, the CL1B, beginning use in approximately 1941.

I do not coincide with the information I came across in an article by the proposer of this series, Tenorio, who mentions that the first printing was on offset and was placed in circulation March 16, 1939. Tenorio mentions that the first clay typographed issue was placed in circulation November 4, 1939. Tenorio mentions that the offset issue is rare, and I do not find it. This is what I find:

I find the CL1A cancelled May 1939.







I find it as an official issue overprinted "Servicio Oficial"



This stamp is less common than most other 10c Rivadavia Browns, but this is relative rarity since these stamps saw heavy use. I only find one cover with this stamp, dated August 20, 1939:





The differences between the CL1A and CL1B clay papers is minimal. The sun for the CL1A is slightly larger than the sun for the Cl1B; the CL1A is flatter, and the CL1B is thin and shows the watermark in relief.

The CL1Bs are slightly darker and show more plate wear. By 1941 the plate shows dots of wear that show up throughout the design as a grid.







I find it as an official issue overprinted "Servicio Oficial"



I find it on over, but it is not common in this format:






tony